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Mega Stars of Comedy Review

Montreal Gazette
July 26, 2014

Friday night, the Just for Laughs late gala was host-less with a lineup crammed with strong comic personalities: Lewis Black, Tommy Tiernan, Ron White, Loni Love, Shaun Majumder, Kathleen Madigan, Mike Wilmot and Marc Maron. The critics are Bill Brownstein and me (Denise Duguay). Read our reviews below. Check over the weekend as we report back from Saturday galas hosted by Bill Burr and Seth Rogen and Sunday galas hosted by Jim Gaffigan and Russell Peters. (Note: We weren’t able to get a photographer to the gala Friday night, but you can view photos of the gala hosts and performers so far right here. We’ll have fresh photos from Saturday night.)


BB: This is what a gala should be. Mega-Stars as a title for this show is not a stretch here. Pretty much wall-to-wall hysterics. And without some disinterested sitcom-star doing a bogus job of hosting and flubbing lines from the teleprompter. Organizers would be hardpressed to put together a much stronger lineup. Okay, the addition of Louis C.K., Bill Burr, TJ Miller, Jim Gaffigan and Jerrod Carmichael would have been comedy heaven. But no complaints whatsoever with Lewis Black, Mike Wilmot, Tommy Tiernan, Marc Maron, Kathleen Madigan and Ron White. My guts were aching. Wish I could have bottled all their bits together and break it out during the bleakest days of February.

DD: What is the best treatment for a tooth ache? Comedy! The inevitably unsuccessful last-minute call to the dentist Friday afternoon and regular doses of ibuprofen are not doing the trick. But this all-star lineup had me laughing hard enough to forget the pain for nearly two hours.


BB: None. And thank-you comedy gods for small mercies.

DD: I like having a host and missed one Friday night. The evening was overall very strong, but it took a while for the momentum to build, which I’ll blame in part on the dead pauses between acts.


BB: Where to begin? Madigan on her mom’s wish to sit in the front of the plane, because she thinks it’s safer: “When was the last time you saw a plane back into a mountain?” The ever-raging Maron: “I live alone … I guess that should be clear.” Maron on empathy: “I didn’t know what it was and, coincidentally, I was incapable of it.” Black on current American espionage: “We’re spying on Germany now … too late!” Black on poll of Amercians’ love of Congress: “More people love lice and colonoscopies than Congress – and nobody loves lice and colonosopies.” Black on colonoscopies: “Things came out of me that I had long forgotten about … like the watch my grandfather gave me for my bar mitzvah.” The ever-ragjng Wilmot: “I just quit smoking and my wife is full-on menopausal … Wanna come over?” Wilmot on trying to will himself to death as a consequence of the latter: “She thinks I’m not listening. No, I’m just trying to stop my heart with my brain.” White on a killer whale at SeaWorld that killed people: “That’s why they’re called killer whales, not ocean ponies.” And the barking-mad Tiernan on everything from his three year-old child from hell to his Maori rugby war-dance to his view on Irish evolution: “We’re not Celts. We’re anemic Algerians.” Best gala yet. And one that could be awfully hard to top.

DD: Madigan on not being able to sleep over at her parents’ Florida apartment complex because she doesn’t make the 55+ age requirement and her suggestion for how to make Sarah McLachlan’s pet-rescue commercials more successful (a beagle puppy in one hand, a pistol in the other and a clock in the background: “If someone doesn’t make a donation in 45 minutes…); Maron on hipster coffee, his cat Monkey and, of course, his victory at, if not stemming the tide of his “river of rage,” then progress (“Closing the gap between outburst and apology, the best I can do. ‘Shut the f-ck up and I’m sorry!’ … Contempathy.”); Dr. Lewis Black’s visceral guide to colonoscopy prep; Love on Morgan Freeman (“Has Morgan Freeman ever been young? Like he was born 65!”); Wilmot on quitting smoking (instead of the measly nicotine patches, “I want a nicotine onesy that I can crawl into.”) and discovering that cooked (and sometimes uncooked) chicken is a survival strategy for living with his pre-menopausal wife; White on airport-security revenge (I take two Viagra and demand a pat down!) and every word that Tiernan barked.


BB: None. Zilch. Either that or someone slipped me some mighty fine meds.

DD: The evening got off to a slow start with Shaun Majumder, which seemed due to slow-building audience energy more than his performance.



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Working not just for laughs but for cash: Four comedians on their career choice

By Brad Wheeler
Globe and Mail
July 23, 2014

Everybody’s a comedian, right? Wrong. We all know funny people, but only a select few make a living at it. Some of those pros are giving performances at this year’s Just for Laughs Festival in Montreal, happening through July 28. We asked four of them the same question: When did you first realize that you were a career comedian?

Don Rickles, the charismatic insulter: “I went to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts. I was trying to be an actor. I studied really hard, but it was a tough road to go. I used to go to private parties and kid around, and I got good reactions. I developed a style, and caught on with people. They laughed. So I said, ‘Hey, this is the way I’m going to be going, because the acting part is tough.’ So I tried that out. I had a lot of rejection, but I kept going and they kept laughing and applauding. My style was very different. It still is. I have a great deal of charm. I’m not hateful – nothing mean- spirited. I’m not a joketeller. It was my personality and my attitude, and it’s always worked for me. That’s the secret of comedy, being different from the next guy. Someone like Bob Newhart, on the other hand, he’s not talented at all. He’s a stiff. He’s not going any place, and I’ve told him that.” (July 23 and 25)

Kathleen Madigan, the user-friendly observational Midwesterner: “I stumbled upon an open-mic night. I was bartending in St. Louis, and we couldn’t drink at the bar where I was working. So a couple of us went to another bar that happened to have an open-mic night. I was busy. I had just gotten out of college, and I was looking for a real job. But me and another bartender kept doing the open-mic for fun, until somebody offered me a gig at another place. It was for $50, and, not to be forgotten, a porterhouse steak. As soon as I got that pay, I realized I could probably get paid again. And I did. But I’m not sure a comedian is still what I want to be. Some comedians have this thing, that they always wanted to be one and it’s a dream come true. It wasn’t my dream, though. I get paid. It’s a fun job. But I’m actually thinking of opening a bar in Ireland.” (July 24 and 25)

Tommy Tiernan, the Irish storyteller: “It was in an ordinary run-of-the-mill pub in Ipswich, England. I had performed in Ireland, but there was no long-standing, historical comedy scene there. But there was in England. I got paid £100, and there was something about terra firma in the English comedic world. I realized that it would always be there for me, that irrespective of what happened, I always would be able to earn a living working the clubs of England. The thing is, I discovered something since then. That terra firma I felt then doesn’t exist for me now. I am unsure of my solidity in this business, and I always will be. It’s a creative wasteland sometimes you find yourself in. You think, ‘I’ve gone to the well so many times.’ You go back, and it’s not there any more. There’s a little man standing where your well used to be and he tells you that your well has moved and that he can’t tell you where and you’ll need to find it again. So, I think those concepts of solidity and assurance don’t last. Not for me, anyway.” (July 21 to 26)

Lewis Black, the acerbic American monologist: “I still can’t believe I am a comedian. I can’t believe people are allowing me to get away with this. There was no exact moment when I first realized that I’d be doing it for a living, really. I just found myself on the road, working. But it began in Houston. Up to that point I was a playwright, though I had begun to do more and more comedy. I was being screwed by the theatre there. They had told me I could stay on and work on my play, but they lied. So, I couldn’t stay on. One night I went across town to a comedy club, where I did a 15- minute audition. They said they’d have me back in a month, which would at least allow me to see my play. Also, they were going to pay me the same amount of money I was getting as a playwright for something I’d spent two years on. They were going to put me up in a nicer place, and they were going to give me a car to use. That’s the point where I said, ‘I’m going to do this.’ I was very lucky.”



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Kathleen Madigan: Lewis Black is a ‘nice Jewish boy’ and Ron White ‘is like Elvis’

By Doug Elfman
Las Vegas Review Journal
June 11, 2014

Kathleen Madigan and Lewis Black decided to go golfing when they were in Ireland in May, but even on a spring day, the wet wind blew a cyclone-ish 60 mph.

When the two Mirage comedians pulled up to the course, “it was about 48 degrees with sideways rain — real rain, not a nice Irish mist,” Kathleen said.

“I’m not doing this,” Kathleen said when she saw golfers wearing “rain suits.” (Kathleen performs stand-up this Saturday at The Mirage.)

“This is why I love golfing with a woman,” Lewis said. “I don’t want to do it either. But if I was with men, they would call me a ‘pansy.’ They would make me play in this (expletive).” So Kathleen and Lewis left and enjoyed a nice Irish breakfast somewhere Irish’y. In my mind, Kathleen and Lewis are always having comedic golf adventures, because they’ve told me about a few of them.

My favorite golf story of hers is about the time Lewis got upset in Florida and helicoptered an iron into an alligator den, and he threatened to go looking for it.

“Really?” Kathleen said to him. “The guy who’s afraid of squirrels? You’re afraid of squirrels, but you’re going in there where there are big signs that say, ‘Alligator Habitat, Do Not Enter?’ … I’ll turn my phone on, and I’ll film it, and I’ll make a billion dollars, because I’ll have the ‘Lewis Black Gets Eaten By An Alligator’ video.”

Kathleen is also close friends with Ron White (another Mirage headliner), and she has adventures with him. That’s why I think of Kathleen as a sort of Katharine Hepburn, and Lewis and Ron as her versions of Spencer Tracy and Cary Grant.

“They really are,” Kathleen said after I presented my theory to her.

“Lewis is overly responsible, overly guilty, overly too-many-thoughts,” she said. “Lewis and I are never going to go out on a Friday to have a bottle of wine and end up in Mexico riding a pony.

“Ron is impulsive,” she said. “There’s not a lot of thought about what consequences may be. He’s just spur-of-the-moment Southern, ‘Let’s do that,’ and then you run into a wall at 90 miles an hour.”

How else are they different?

“Lew is still a nice Jewish boy. He’s not going to waste money. He’ll spend money, but then he feels bad because he could have given it to a charity,” Kathleen said. “Ron is like Elvis,” she said. “Ron will go buy a jet. With cash.”

Can she tell us a Ron story she won’t regret telling us? Oh, there was that big party in the Columbus, Ohio, Funny Bone, which was next to the condos where comedians stayed while in town.

“I just remember waking up in the bar. I remember people not making it home. I remember finding comedians in the bushes.

“But everything was safe. We were like in a biodome. We couldn’t get hurt. No one was driving. The worst you could do was fall in a bush.”

Kathleen golfs with Ron, too, but she prefers not to golf in Vegas during the summer, because her Irish heritage isn’t buoyant under desert sun. “I tried with Ron White. It was 102, and literally by the third hole, he was like, ‘Maddie, your face is purple.’

“We usually make drink bets,” she said. “But if I’m playing with Lew or Ron, everybody can afford the drinks, so the money’s not the fun part; making them go get them is the fun part.”

One thing Lewis and Ron have in common is, with age, they can promise her “some element of safety.”

“They’ve reached a level where no matter what happens, we have enough money to fix it, which is a problem when you’re young and you have no money (and the mindset is), ‘If you wreck the car, we are (screwed).’

“But now you can just call somebody and go, ‘I need another car here, I (expletive) this one up,’ and a car shows up
“I never thought I would see these things.”



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Kathleen Madigan: no red carpet needed

By Aaron Epple
Dayton Daily News
May 14, 2014

She’s on the road 300 days out of the year, she’s done every late show and late-late show countless times. She counts Lewis Black as a friend and Joy Behar and Jon Stewart as acquaintances, but she has never sought (or received) the red-carpet treatment.

“I’m more like the woman you see at the bar,” she said. “My parents live in the Ozarks and I have a condo about two coves down from them. I’d rather be there, where I recently saw two women get into a fistfight, which I hadn’t seen in awhile. I don’t know whether that’s something to be proud of.”

Madigan’s topics typically involve her long-settled family, her Irish Catholic upbringing, her relentless singlehood and the “slow demise of CNN.”

“That’s just what I like, what I’m interested in,” she said. “The jokes change, though sometimes I’ll rotate something in from my last special. Once, I was doing a benefit with Lewis Black, and I wanted to do some jokes I’d done about him. But I couldn’t remember them, so I had to buy my own CD on iTunes.”

Although some media outlets have deemed Madigan ripe for sitcoms (a wise-cracking, martini-swilling mother-in-law was one suggestion), and she spent a brief stint writing for Garry Shandling, she has never aspired to any gig that involves being constricted to a cubicle or studio set. “For me, normal was about running out and joining the circus,” she said. “I’ve never felt weird about (being on the road a lot) or about being single, because most of my comedian friends are, too. You have to find your own ‘normal’ if you find yourself in an ‘odd normal.’ “

Nevertheless, she does feel sympathy for her comedian friends who do aspire to such heights.

“There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to any of it,” she said. “(Lewis) should’ve gotten a show a long time ago. It seems to be for people who play the game. I don’t play it, and (Lewis) doesn’t play it, which is good, because we’d suck at it even if we tried.”



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A Friend of Tim’s: Kathleen Madigan Talks TV, Tim and Getting Heckled

By Justin Stokes
Murfreesboro Pulse
May 14, 2014

Few comics enjoy the level of decoration Kathleen Madigan has achieved. Four CDs, three DVDs, and a 25 year career that has manifested both being named one of iTunes Best Comedy Albums of 2013 and a nomination for 2014 American Comedy Award nomination (Best Concert Critic). She’s performed on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, The Late Show with David Letterman, Late Night with Conan O’Brien and The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. On top of that, Madigan’s produced three Comedy Central specials, two HBO specials, and three CMT Salute to the Troops. Ron White has said she’s “Easily one of the best comics alive.”

Now a part of the Wild West Comedy Festival, Nashville’s first city-spanning event helmed by Vince Vaughn, Madigan’s May 14 show at TPAC may be one of the most emotional shows to date: a benefit honoring a late friend.

Murfreesboro Pulse: Now, you’re coming to the Tennessee Performing Arts Center for an event listed in the Wild West’s Comedy Fest; the Friends of Tim Wilson Benefit. Let’s ask first “Who was Tim Wilson?”

Madigan: He was just one of the good guys. Nice. Super smart. Super well read. I liked that I could have conversations with Tim about anything and I would learn something from him. I mean, he’s funny and all that, but all my friends are pretty funny. He just took it to another level. I felt like I was with a really safe, older, fun, smart brother when I was with him. Just one of the good guys. And it’s just awful. Not that you want the bad guys to die, but let’s just say that there are some comedians that if I heard they died I would go “Oh.” (Laughs) Not to be mean, but I would just not be nearly as upset. There are some that will remain nameless, but all you have to do is Google “hack mean comic” and all their names will come up I’m sure. You just hate to lose the good ones.

How did you come to meet Tim?

The first time I worked with him, he was headlining and I was the opening act. It was at the Davenport, Iowa, Funny Bone. And he was talkin’ so fast. And he said “Man I jutdon’tthinkthepeoplikemeItalktalktalk” (Madigan goes into sound-barrier breaking “hillbilly speak”) and I go “Tim, it’s not that they don’t like you. You gotta slow down dude. I spend six months of my year in the South, and I can’t understand you. You’re talking too fast.” And then he just killed all week long. Not that I am the one who is “The Bearer of All Wisdom,” but he was just on a big Southern run and was just used to being able to talk like that. But we had a great week. It was when riverboat gambling first came out. We went riverboat gambling. Like just silly, stupid fun stuff. That was the first week that I worked with him.

Did your experiences with Tim segue into your involvement with SiriusXM’s “Blue Collar Radio”?

Uh no. That just came through . . . I mean, I know some of the people at Sirius, but I think they were just lookin’ for women, or any comics really, who could kind of fit into blue collar, because they’ve got the mainstays: Larry the Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy. But you can’t just play Larry and Jeff all day. And I think that they think my stuff is “borderline, that it could fit” so they play it a lot. That’s all. Which is great. I’m very happy they do.

Not to pigeon-hole you, but would say that your Irish Catholic, working class background bridges the gap in standards for “blue collar” comedy in a way?

Well, it qualifies enough for that station. Blue collar is blue collar, whether you’re Southern, or Midwestern, or whatever. So I think they said “Yeah, that works for us.” I think because they play so much of Jeff that people think “blue collar” and they mean “redneck”, and that’s not what they meant. Know what I mean?

The term simply refers to “working class” folks.


In previous interviews, you’ve talked about the comedians that have influenced you. But what comedians have you influenced?

Oh, I have no idea. I mean, there’s comics that come up and say “I really think you’re funny,” or “I really like your work.” But I have no idea who I have influenced. I’m sure that when I’m dead, somebody will tell . . . well, they’ll tell somebody at my wake. But I have no idea.

It’ll be one of the hack comedians. They’ll do it to get back at you.


Speaking of “getting back”, you shared on Twitter that you were heckled by senior citizens?

It was like two years ago in Florida, in some theater. No it was probably three years ago. I did a joke about Sarah Palin that was completely innocuous. There was nothing even . . . it was a silly joke, and it doesn’t even matter what the joke is, because I hadn’t even started the joke. And this, like, I don’t know she had to be 75 or 80, but I think she was half in the bag, but yeah she [the woman] just went crazy and said “Don’t talk bad about Sarah Palin! I love you and I love Sarah Palin!.” I let her talk. It was more of a plea for me to not ruin her idea of who I was I guess cause she’s like, so how could I possible say something bad about this other person she admires. And I’m like “Ma’am, you’re putting me and Sarah Palin in the same bucket? I’m completely perplexed by that. I feel like I have nothing in common with Sarah Palin, but clearly you like us both.” And she said “I do!” She was just this old lady who was just kinda hammered, and she was harmless. It was inappropriate though. And there’s a thousand people there, and nine hundred and ninety-nine other people paid, and they didn’t pay to listen to this lady. So at some point you gotta go “Okay, ma’am, I am gonna do this joke about Sarah Palin. Or we could skip it.” Then the audience is like “No, we wanna hear it!.” It was fine. I don’t ever have a heckler I can’t handle, but it was weird to get heckled by someone who was my mom’s age. Like I wanted to call her “Missus Something” instead of “Hey Lady” because I just thought that was kind of disrespectful.’Cause she was so much older. But I didn’t get that far.

Looking at some of the other comments on this Twitter thread, many fans have shared that they can’t really see you getting heckled all that much. Other than that seemingly isolated incident, have you had a generally positive, heckler free experience?

No, it’s really, really super rare. That’s why when it happens, I’m more perplexed. It’s fine, I can handle it. But my act doesn’t really call for it. I don’t really say anything controversial . . . I guess, except for my joke about Sarah Palin being a game warden, I guess that was the one that drove that lady crazy. (Laughs) Yeah, it doesn’t really happen at my shows. Usually everyone is having a really nice time.

You’re always on the road, and much of your material comes from personal relationships with family and friends. Having such a large following, do you feel that as a stand-up comic that you have a reasonable expectation of having a normal, private life? Or do you sacrifice that for stardom?

Oh yeah. Most people who say that “Well, I don’t have any privacy,” they’re full of crap. They’re the ones calling the press and saying “Oh, I’m gonna be at this bar tonight. Come take my picture.” If you want to live a normal life, it’s really not a problem. Jay Leno leads a normal life. He goes to Burger King. He even has his “Whopper Card” in his wallet. I mean, there’s a million-Jay Leno drives around in weird cars and pays cash for gas. Know what I mean? Seinfeld has three kids. Yes, you can still go to a baseball game. Go do whatever you want. I don’t know about rock stars and I don’t know about movie actors and stuff, but there’s a lot of really-Lewis Black is pretty famous. He’s on The Daily Show. Lew and I walk around 24 hours a day like normal people. So somebody may stop you and say “Hey I like your work,” and it’s like “Well, that’s nice. Thank you” and you maybe take a picture and keep walkin’. I think a lot of people complain about the wrong things. If somebody’s gonna stop you and ask you to get a picture, absolutely you can get a picture. Not a problem.

So you’d say, at least in terms of the comedy side of entertainment, it would be an embellishment if people make the claims that they don’t have privacy?

Yeah. I think especially of stand-up comedians. I don’t even know what they mean by that. “I don’t have privacy.” I’m with some of the most famous comedians alive, and we do totally normal things. I just don’t know what they’re talking about. Now, I’m sure my life does not apply to somebody on a Madonna-level. That can get out of hand. Rock people, I don’t know what those people do. But stand-ups, we’re all just running around a normal life.

Have your jokes about your personal life affected or changed any of your personal relationships with your friends or family?

No, everybody is completely supportive and knows we’re all just having a good time. It’s all good.

You travel extensively. What do you do to maintain a healthy outlook? Any favorite authors, musicians? What about podcasters?

No, I’ve never listened to a podcast in my life. That wouldn’t be on the table. Most of the time I have friends in these cities that I go to now, so I’m usually hanging out doing something. But, I have music I work out to. It’s not like a passion. It’s just there so I’m not bored. I’m usually runnin’ around doing stuff. I’m usually out.

You’ve expressed in the past what you feel to be the “splintered nature” of media. With Jay Leno, David Letterman, and now Craig Ferguson all soon to be gone from the late night show scene, do you feel that the “Golden Age of Discovery” for comedy is passing? Or do you think that that’s a tradition that will continue?

I think late night, I mean I think these guys will do the shows. I think being “discovered” on late night, that that went away years ago. Really after Carson. And it has nothing to do with Letterman or Leno, it had to do with cable. When Johnny Carson was on there were three channels. Period. Available in the nation. And two-thirds of America watched Johnny Carson. So if you went on “Johnny Carson,” two-thirds of the country saw you. You couldn’t get that kind of focus anymore unless maybe you were a mass murderer. And I’m not even joking. And even then, it would only be for about half a day and a news cycle anymore. It’s not because of the men involved. It’s because of the amount of entertainment options. And now, I meet people . . . anyone who checks me out in the store under the age of 30 I ask “Do you have cable?” And they’re like (doing a Jeff Spicoli impression) “No.” People don’t even have cable. They watch everything on their phone. They watch Hulu, they watch Netflix. They can still watch those shows, but when they feel like it. And they don’t have to pay a cable bill of a hundred and sixty-eight dollars, or whatever nonsense I pay. Now I’ve switched to DirecTV. It’s like a hundred and fifty bucks, which that’s a lot if you’re a young person. It’s just becoming so splintered that it’s good, but it’s also difficult to get national focus.

Let’s take a moment and appreciate what may have just been one of the most epic plugs for DirecTV.

I did switch really because I wanted football. But then I got so mad at cable for having that big fight with Showtime. And I was watching Dexter! And I couldn’t even watch it on my iPad. I was like “What? They blocked me on the iPad?! Oh my God, this is ridiculous!” I really liked that show, so I said “Forget this crap. Just because you and Showtime are fighting, I’m the child that is now penalized because Mom and Dad can’t get along? This is bullshit.” So I went and got DirecTV. And then they got in a fight with The Weather Channel, which really upset me ’cause I love The Weather Channel, but now they’ve made up again and now I have The Weather Channel back. So now, all is well in “TVland”.

Did you get to finish Dexter?

Yeah, I finished all of it.

Were you upset with the ending? Were you pleased with the ending?

I liked it. I know a lot of people got upset. I’m fine with it. Except my Libra, logical side.. . I was like “Wait a minute, that storm looks really bad. How did he survive that storm?” But I don’t know, I know a lot of people did not like it. I mean, I don’t like The Sopranos where you give me no ending. I don’t care what the ending is, just give me a ending. And they ended it. They said he got away, and he’s still alive. And he’s doing it again. Okay. That’s an ending. I’ll accept it.

What other shows are you watching currently?

I like a lot of the stuff on HBO. I love Game of Thrones. I love these things where I can binge-watch. I love The Tudors. I’m watching one too that nobody’s watching, which is actually very good called Turn on AMC. It’s America’s “first CIA.” So it’s us against the British, and who turned on the British and became spies. It’s actually really well done. I got so suckered into The Following with Kevin Bacon and it’s gotten beyond, it has jumped so many sharks. But now I gotta watch it until the end because I’m already in this far. It’s like a bad mechanic. I do love Kevin Bacon and I’m sure even he’s like “Really guys? You really expect people to believe this?” Well, I’m suckered in so I’m going along with that.

A good question to always ask guests of Music City: Any impressions of Nashville you’d like to share?

I love Nashville. I’ve been coming there forever. I really do. I was a little disappointed in the moving of the Hatch [Show] Print. I liked the old store better, I gotta say. I know they had to move all that stuff and so there’s a big, giant tourist place. I thought “Oh poo.” I loved going in there and hanging out and looking at all the posters. I like the people. I’m a big fan of Tennessee, big fan of Kentucky. I’m all in. Missouri girl could live there in a minute. I really, really have a good time.

Last question: You have a section of Madigan Again titled “Real Scares.” You addressed teenagers paying to be scared as a concept that was somewhat foreign to you. Do you feel that that’s limited to just teenagers? Or that other people just don’t have an appreciation for their own safety?

No, I was really just talking about the movie genre thing, ’cause it was really fascinating to me. One of my friends, he works for a big distributing company for movies. I don’t know how many times you’ll see just a fast ad for some bizarre possession movie, or a haunted, crazy place movie. And they’re not even major ad campaigns. It’s not like it’s somebody from Disney or Miramax, or they’re billboards. But those are the movies that make the most money. And my distributor guy said “Kathleen, you can’t believe that horror is the No. 1 genre.” And I haven’t seen a horror movie literally since The Exorcist I guess. And that was enough. I don’t need to see another horror movie. I don’t enjoy feeling more anxious. That’s not up my alley. But teenagers, if you think about it . . . who goes to movies on Friday nights? Them! They’re in charge. Them and then little kids for the Disney stuff. Frozen and that kinda stuff. I just think it’s funny that they get excited about getting scared. I really just think that’s interesting. We could go make a horror movie that wasn’t even that good and would still make money. Wow! Who knew? I should have gone into that. Who are those actors? They’re probably making a good living, I should have done that.



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